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INTERVIEWWITHMARKSBARFIELD，辛迪·劳/GAOYanCindy

（M.B.E.RIBA），毕业于伦敦建筑学院（AASchoolMBA1994DavidMarksMBERIBAstudiedatthetheyfoundedtheLondonEye.AsManagingDirectorheraisedallthefinancenecessaryforthedevelopment.TheLondonEyehasethemostpopularattractionintheUKandisrecognisedasanewsymbolofLondonandtheUK.In2000hewasmadeanMBEintheQueen'sPhilipSpecialCommendationforOutstandingAchievementinDesignhewasawardedthethepracticereceivedTheBuildingArchitecturalIn2003MarksBarfieldArchitectsreceivedtheQueensAwardfor

·巴费尔德英国建筑师女皇授勋会员(M.B.E.RIBA)，毕业于伦敦建筑学院（AASchool）。1989年和大卫·合伙创立MBA建筑JuliaBarfieldMBERIBAstudiedattheArchitecturalassociation.Sheco-foundedMarksBarfieldArchitectsin1989.In2000shewasmadeanMBEintheQueen'sNewYearsHonoursListandwasawardedthePrincePhilipSpecialCommendationforOutstandingAchievementinDesignforBusinessandSociety.JuliaBarfieldiscloselyinvolvedinalloftheattheinitialstageofprojectsdeveloinnovativestrategicdesignsolutionstomeetcoordinatingconsultationexerciseswithcommunitygroupsandotherinterestedparties,tosupportsensitivenningapplications.SheeducationconferencesandinstitutionssuchastheRIBA,RoyalAcademyofArts,andRoyaloverseas.ShehasbeenajudgeforboththeRIBAandCivicTrustandisaCouncilMemberoftheArchitecturalAssociation.□

和响应任务书与的问题。我们而有远见地标识机遇；我们相信成功的方案是MARKSBARFIELDDESIGNPHILOSOPHforours.Webelievethatgooddesignandanimaginativeresponsetocontext.Ourunderstandingandrespondingtothebriefandthesiteinawaythatleadstounique,oftenunexpectedsolutions.Ourfocusisours.Wedefineproblemswithgreatcare.Weidentifyopportunitieswithboldnessofvision.Webelievethatsuccessfulprojectscomefromgoodinligenceandgreatteamwork.Ourapproachisunderpinnedbyastrongcommitmenttoquality-ofpeopleandWeareinthebusinessofinspiringpeople.Ourphilosophyistoprovideanarchitecturethatishumane,accessibleandapleasuretoexperience.Wecrosstheboundariesofsectordefinitionsthroughourdepthandbreadthofexperience介绍/ARCHITECT’S 答：我认为在AA读书是很美妙的一件事。现在每次回到AA我仍然会很激动。渐渐的我，AA做的研当时感的问题本质上差别不大现的方AA

问：您是如何创办MBA的？（

答：对。公司成立于1994年。发生。当时是1993年，在1994年我们决定自己实现这 （CrystalPalace），Station

计计r队（UrbanTask己提议建设一个高密度浓图8～11（SpiralCaf8～11

、、151617雷诺卡车总部，2004

须须答：有人用“自然生成的建筑”（Emergent集购物商场、休闲中心、、首都利雅得公园于一体的多功能

么是一直存在于设计理念中的呢？看到了设计方法的另一面。

并没有什么所谓的方法学。它可以是明确地关于的问：和您的谈话让到了MVRDV的工作，他们经常道有没有类似的工作方法？2122大学柱廊设计

CCTV方案，人们对这种“进口货”褒贬不一，很有争

［1］城市特别工作队（UrbanTask）主要明确StudiedinAAschoothecomputerintodesign.Canyoubrieflytalkaboutthatexperience?Whattasksdidthecomputerdealwith?Howdidyouuseit?A:Yes.IrememberwewereworkingonsomegeodesicdomesfortheBeaulieuMotorMuseum.Comparedtowhatisavailabletoday,ourweworkedonneededtohavelotsofdifferentthepanelsbutalsothealltheconnections,involvinglotsofmathematicalcalculations.Wedidallthecalculationsandmadethedomesourselves.Wecouldhavedonethecalculationswithoutusingcomputers.Nowwedon'thaveevenanydraw-boardsatallintheoffice.architecturaldesign?

Q:Regardingyourcurrentachievements,howdoyouevaluateyourAAstudyexperience?formenowwhenIgototheAA.ItseemssomeofsinceIwasthere.Alotofworkisnowbasedonadvancedgeometry,ornaturalfluidforms,anthoughtsthatwerearoundintheAAwhenIwaslotsofdifferentdirections.RemandZahawereandecologicalapproaches.Q:SoyouwerestudyingatAAwhenZahaandRemwerethere?A:Yes.Theyweremaybeayearahead.IrememberedZaha,inmylastyear,oneyearshewasastudent,thenextyearshebecameatutor.LibskindgavelecturesattheAAaswell.ArchitecturePracticarchitecturalpracticebeforeyouopenedyourownarchitectureofficeinLondon?Roger'soffice,webothstartedthereasmodel始只是城市的机遇吸引了我。建筑师的工作多数在城市里，A:(Nod)AlotofpeoplesaytheComputer □

limitingtoarchitecture,butIthink,onthecontrary,complexcalculations.Itgivesyoumanymoremanyhavesaid.A:No.Itisnotjustadrawingtool.Itisameanstotorepresentit.

demandformodels,buttherewasn'tmucharchitecturalworkforrecentgraduates,therewasn'talotofworkaroundgenerally.Somakingmodelswaswhatwedid,andwesoondecidedtosetupourownmodelmakingbusiness.WeworkedforalotofpeoplelikeRogers,aswellasinLondonaftertheLondonEye.Q:CanyoubrieflydescribehowyoustartedtheMBApractice?had14peopleinthehouseandwehadtofindawastostartmyownbusiness.Roger'swasreallygoodtome,becauseheofferedtokeepmepartfirstprojectwasasmallhouseextension.Q:Aswegointoyourpracticepart,thefirstprojectyouwanttotalkaboutmustbetheLondonEyeworldintermsofnotonlythearchitecturalandtheculturalcontextofLondon,andasadistinguishedengineeringscheme.Asfarasweknowfromtheinternetresearch,almostallthecommentsaboutthewheelarepositive.Weareunsatisfactoryinthisproject?averystrongconceptaboutlightingthewheel,RiverThamesissoimportanttoLondon.Wehaveriverhelightingwithchangingcolors,moving,gettingbrighterordimmer.Thiswillproperlyreflectthelifelightingaroundtheriver,andthereisanopportunityreallyshowoffLondonatnight.Londonisshortlistedforthe2012Olympics,andmoreandmoretouristscomingtoLondon.Allthebigmajorernmentbuildings,biginstitutions,theSouthBankArtscomplexcenter,arealllocatedontheriverorimmediaybehindit.Theyalldeservegoodlighting.ThewheelwouldbeagoodceoftheTateBritain,wherewerealizedaveryBullock.Thisworkmovesconstantly.It

calledflashandtidal.Itisverydelicate.Q:SoitissomehowrespondingtothedynamicofA:Yes,Q:HowlongdidittaketobuildtheLondonEye?withno.Wewerethe.A:Yes.Westartedthein1994.saidtheywouldpublishthewinningdesign.Buttherewasnowinningscheme.Theydidn'tthinkanyofthesubmissionsweregoodenough.Q:WhowasthesponsorofthisFoundation.Wedidthecompetitionbutnothinghappened.Itwasin1993.In1994,wedecidedtocalledthenningdepartmenttofindoutaboutmakinganningapplication.ThenweformedtheandovertimeBritishAirwayshowedtheirinterest.Wegotthemoneytogether.Obviouslyitwasaveryspecialprojectwhichrequiredmorethanarchitecturaldesign.theproject?Forexample,howdidyougettheideatobuildthismega-wheelonthesite?Whatinspiredyoutodoso?Diditcomefromnowhereallofsudden?totheThames,about20minuteswalkaway.Onmybridge.InonedirectionyouseeCrystalPalace.InthedecidedithadtobedoneontheSouthBank.Q:WhydidithavetobetheSouthverycenterofLondon.Thirdly,becauseitishalfwayandtheCityofWestminster.ly,thesouthbankisanareaneedingregeneration.Wehadagreatideaanditwastheperfectlocation.Q:Howdoyouevaluatethecontributionofthestructuralengineertothisproject?becauseofengineers.Theybuildbridges,guaranteebuildings,createtransportsystems,

erecttowersanddesignthecity'sdrainage.Architectsmakethingsbeautiful.Inaword,architectsdotheurbannning,andengineersthecombinationofgoodarchitectandengineer.Q:Fromtheverybeginning?isalsoacelebrationofengineering,becauseitisnoexceptiondonewithoutoutstandingQ:Sothewayyoubuiltthewheel,likehowtheframeworkwaserected,howthecablesareattached,howthecapsuleswereinstalled,weretheresultofconversationsbetweenyouandtheA:Yes.Youcan'treallyseparatethework.Youhavetothinkabouthowthingsaregoingtobebythemethodofbuilding,asarethedetails.nneditshallbeputdownin5yearsfromnowon.Isthattrue?atleastuntil2024.Onlyifitisnotsuccessfulatthatpoint,mightitcomedown.Soithastobecontinuouslysuccessful.Q:Sotheywilljudgeitonwhetheritisstillsuccessfulatthattime?A:Q:Doyouthinkitcanbeanexampleofmy100years?A:Physicallythewheelcouldbetherefor100reced,eventhecapsulesatsomepointneedlikethecableswhichwouldprobablyonlyneedovertime,everythingwillbereced.Q:Thisremindsmeourongoingstudioprojectproposal,whichrequestustodesignapavilionbuildingatpresent.Whatisyourcommentonit?A:Itisveryhard.Ifithastobetherefor100yearswithoutrecement,youwouldhavetobuilditnow,theideathateverythingcouldberecedalsoneedstobeconstantlychangedduringitsthereforaverylongtermexceptasignificantwhichcanworkwellforhundredsofyears.Q:Consequently,regardingthehighdevelospeedoftheworld,don'tyouagreethatitwillmakemoresensetoproposeashorttermprojectinstance,ourstudioproject,sinceeverythingchangessofast,thereisnowayforpeopletopredictwhatwillhappenin100years.A:Ithinkitisaninterestingdiscussiontohave.Ifyoutobuildacityinsuchawaythatthebuildingsasamusichall.DuringtheSecondWorldWaritwasconvertedintoworkshopsfortheproductionInthefutureitmightehousing.Ithinkthatkindofflexibilityistherightanswer.comparedemographicsinBritainand,inwerelivinginthesameamountofspaceonaverageasone islivingtoday.Sopeopleneedmorespace.Familylifestyleanddemographicshavechanged.Youdon'thavemanypeoplelivingsoclose.Butahundredyearshavemadeapointaboutcreatingcompacthighdensitycities.Peoplealsowantandneednow.Butunfortunaywhatisnothappeningnowinisthatitisnotbalancedbygreenandneedhumancities,butthatcan modatealotofpeoplesustainably.Itisquiteimportant.Q:ApartfromLondoneye,wearealsointerestedinsomeotherprojectsyouhavedone.SowhatelsecomestoyoumindafterLondonEye?

riverThamesandtheCafinBirmingham.Wehavedonemanyprojects.Ofallofourprojects,probablythereareoneortwothatwearelessnewbuiltprojectswin.Rightnowwearetreewalkway,whichis15metershighabovetheground.Peoplewalkthroughthetrees.It'sanongoingproject.Wewonadesigncompetition.WehavealsojustwontheBasildonBridgeDesignPhilosophQ:Iclearlyrememberyouhaveexpressedyourcareaboutgeometryintermsofunderstandingarchitecture.Maybewewillhavetogobacktothequestionfacingarchitectsforalongtime.responsibilityforarchitects?Couldyoupleasemakeabriefconclusioninyourownwords?Beyondthat,Ithinkthereareawholerangeofdifferentissuesforexamplesymbolic,meaning,memory,culturalidentity,historicalandsoon.Soiteconomicallyandenvironmentally.Youcangofurtherthanthat-ifyouareabletobuildancanhavearesonancewithnatureandnaturalform.Thereissomethingaboutthisembeddeddeeplyinthehumanconsciousness,becausewearepartofthenature.A:Werecognizeotherelementsfromthenaturalworld.Werecognizeelementswith'aface'.Andbuildingscanhaveakindof'face'.ButIdon'tmeantoimitatenature.Ifyoucanfindsomeaspectstoremindyouinasubtleway,youwillhaveagoodchancetocreateanarchitecturearoundit.youneedtore-exintheruleofhownatureisorganizedandhowitworksbasedonyourobservingandcontemting.A:Yes.That'sright.Whenyouopenyoureyes,lotofimportantworkinngawaywithallsortsofheavywesternVictoriandecoration.However,

overtime,alotofmodernarchitecturebecamewherearchitecturecanbemoreyful,moreshouldn'tjustbeaboutfunctionalism.A:Youknow,peoplearecallingitemergentarchitecture.Idon'tknow.Ithinkitisamoresensitivetheworldbetter.Q:AnotherprojectyouhavedoneinterestsmealotistheSCHOOLSHELTER.A:ThewovenQ:Yes.Irememberedyouhaveevertoldmethewillgenerateaglobalemergentusinginexpensivematerials,suchasplywood,somethingeasytoworkwith.Wewantedtocreateshade.Sotheideawastocreateakindofwovenwavestructure.Weimmediaycutwoodstripindonewiththecomputer,butthroughphysicalmodelmaking.youshapetheshelter.weavethosepiecesofwood.Theonlywaytofindthatthedesigningprocessisdifferentwithdifferentprojects.ForexampleintheSpiralCafwehadaclearideathatcamefromgeometry.Howwouldtheextrudedspiralbehaveina3Dcomputeritincomputerspace.Q:Soyoudon'thaveadominantdesignstrategytherewhileyoudesigning?Q:ItisquiteinterestingtogothroughmanyofyourIseeanothersideofyourdesignworld.schoolsheltershowed,theideawasjustweavingpracticewithit.IthinkthereareotherwaysthinkingWhattheyaskedtothinkaboutisaconnectionthenewmillenniumgalleryatthetop.Theoldupgrading.Thelinkbetweenthetwoiscomplexproposedamoremechanicalsolution.Whentheybuilding,webegantosaymaybeitwouldnotbeformedinwordsratherthanimages.endofthepen.OccasionallyhaveasortofthecolonnadeofCambridgeUniversity.Wehadtherewasadifferentideathatcameoutofthediscussiononthosethreeideas.Intheway,themethodologyexceptthateverytime,wegatherinformation,andotherinligenceaboutthephotographs,oranthatworkedintheOryoumaydiscoversomethingfromthedependontheprojectandcontext.Q:Whatyoutalkedaboutmakescurious．Comparedwithyourworks,howwillyoucommentsomeotherworks,likeMVRDVwhoysisleadingtothefinalgeometryformassitenexttosomesmallterracedhousing.Intheysis,whatwefoundthattheamenityimpactBecauseourwantedtobuildhigh,even

Thereisaguidancepublishedabouthowmuchskyyouneedtoprotectforpeopleamenity.Soitbecameareallyimportantpointinthedesignysis.Thedesignandlayoutofthesitearedeterminedinrelationtonotinfringingotherpeople'saspect,becausethewantedahigh-densitydevelopment.Asaresult,webuiltwithinacalculatedenvelope.ThatbasicallycreatedtheUsuallyitissomethingelse.Impressiontravelingthere.Whatisthefirstthingcomingoutinyourmindwhenyoutalkabout?bein.Thespeedofdevelopment,thescalearedeveloatamuchmuchsmallerscale.InEnglandwerecehousingatsuchalowrateof1970stheUKmadealotofmistakes.Architects,politiciansandengineersmademanymistakes,economically.Ithinkitisnowtimetohavethan.Ithinktheseideasareveryacceptableinarereall