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1、成为一名专职作家意味着即使在不愿意的时候Being a professional writer means you have to write,也必须坚持写作even when you dont want to.因为你手头的项目必须要在某个日期前完成Because you have the burden of the project that youre working on这是你所要承受的负担has to be completed by a certain date.所以如果你缺乏灵感 就得想办法找到它So if youre lacking inspiration, you better g
2、o find it somewhere.也有时候 灵感会恰到好处地来临But sometimes, inspiration hits at just the right time.我叫坎普鲍尔斯My names Kemp Powers,我是心灵奇旅的联合编剧与联合导演and I am the co-writer and co-director of Soul.心灵奇旅讲述了一个男人的故事Soul is a story of a man who has always felt他一直觉得自己的人生目标是要成为一位音乐家like his lifes purpose was to be a music
3、ian.电影的主角 乔加德纳The main character in the film, Joe Gardner,是一位中学老师is a middle-school band teacher他的梦想是要成为一位专业的爵士音乐家who dreams of being a professional jazz musician.在年复一年的工作之后And on the day that he gets his big break,他的人生迎来了重大突破basically gets his dream,就在快要实现梦想的那一天 他死了after decades and decades of work
4、, he dies.但因为感觉被世间玩弄 他拒绝死亡But feeling cheated by the universe, Joe refuses to die.为了回到人世 他愿意做任何事Hes willing to do anything to fight his way back to Earth,这样就能有第二次机会 过上他自认为应得的生活to get a second chance to live the life that he feels like hes earned.对我而言 心灵奇旅是一项融入我个人情感的梦幻项目Soul is really, really persona
5、l, and a bit of a dream project for me.这部电影的主角是一个和我年龄相仿的黑人The lead in this film is a Black man, whos about my age,他和我一样来自纽约 又是一位爵士音乐家whos from New York, like me, whos also a jazz musician.而我也热爱爵士乐And I love jazz music.我小时候曾在爵士乐队演奏过I used to actually play in a jazz band when I was a kid.我也给自己的儿子取名为查尔
6、斯明格斯My own son is named after Charles Mingus.因此这个故事中的很多元素So, there were lots of elements of this world我都能完全理解that I understood pretty thoroughly.在我加入之前The film had already been in development这部电影已经筹备了好几年for several years before I came on board.要跳上这趟飞快的火车可不算容易So, there was a certain element of jumpin
7、g onto a fast-moving train.就这些 然后 -没错All that, and then. - Yeah. Yeah.创意写作是我的第二项职业Writing creatively is a second career for me.此前我做了将近17年的记者I was a journalist for almost 17 years.我以一个剧作家的身份开始从事创意写作I got into creative writing as a playwright,我写过剧本 给电视剧编剧and Ive written screenplays, Ive written for te
8、levision,但是为动画写剧本but writing for animation就需要我将毕生所学结合运用起来combines elements of all the other kinds of writing that Ive done.相比其他媒介 这样的写作强度也更高And its more intense of an experience than writing for any other medium.通常而言 剧本写作是一个人单打独斗Generally speaking, screenwriting is a really solitary pursuit.但在皮克斯 这是
9、一项团队活动But at Pixar, its definitely more of a team sport.写剧本的同时 电影也在制♥作♥The film is actually being written as its in production.没有在银幕上看到画面的话Theres no idea that you write on the page that you can determine你根本不知道自己在纸上写下的内容是否行得通whether it works or doesnt work without seeing it up on screen
10、.这意味着每一步都有许多人参与That means that a huge number of people are involved every step of the way.在他的想象中 这些都是影响深远的时刻When he projected, these were impactful moments.我从来没有在一整个项目中Ive never collaborated with so many different people和这么多不同的人合作过across the whole spectrum of a project.不只有联合编剧 不只有导演Not just the co-w
11、riter, not just the director,还有故事板画师 剪辑师 动画师 角色设计师 布景师but the story artists, the editors, the animators, character design, sets.你必须真正相信合作精神So, you have to really believe in the spirit of collaboration,因为有好几百人都在一齐尽着最大的努力because theres hundreds of people, all working their hardest, in unison,我们必须互相沟通协
12、作and we have to communicate with one another.为动画电影创作剧本Writing on an animated film意味着笔下的世界和角色必须要让人感到真实means having to come up with worlds and characters that feel real.当我加入的时候When I started,主人公的角色已经在一定程度上构建起来了the main character had already been developed to an extent.但还是感觉不太真实But he didnt feel real y
13、et.我们一直在问自己乔还缺了什么We kept asking ourselves what was missing about Joe,以及怎样让他感觉像是个真正的非裔美国人and how do we make him feel authentically more African American.与此同时 这是在给所有人讲述一个故事At the same time that youre telling a story for everyone,要确保来自特定地区的人们都觉得它是真实的you wanna make sure that the people from these specif
14、ic worlds see it as authentic.我就是想把他塑造成一个黑人And I just wanted to recognize Joe as Black.因此 在乔得到机会进行表演的一个场景So, theres a scene when Joe gets this big opportunity to perform,他穿上了一件特别的衣服 那是他的演出服he gets a special suit. Its his gig suit.但作为一个黑人But as a Black man,我觉得他在为这个重要日子做准备时it didnt feel right to me th
15、at he would be getting ready for his big day不去理发 感觉不太对劲and not also get his hair cut.因为 基于那时我们对乔的设定Because, based on the design that we had for Joe at the time,我就一直在想 这家伙需要理发了all I kept thinking was like, This guy needs a haircut.因为这样看起来有点乱Cause it kind of looks a mess.他应该关注一下自己的发型He should be conce
16、rned about getting that hair fixed.哪怕就梳一下 比如说 我的头发现在就没梳整齐Even just lined up as, say. Like, my hairs not lined up right now.所以 说实话 我现在甚至就不该出现在镜头前So, to be perfectly honest, I shouldnt even be on camera at the moment.我只是看着乔的头发 然后我就明白了So I was just looking at Joes hair and it dawned on me, like,就感觉 答案就
17、在我们眼前Oh, the answers right in front of our face.乔必须要做的是 一是把头发理好Joe had to, A, get his hair fixed.二是去到一个黑人的空间And B, enter a truly Black space,而在社区里and theres really no more authentic没有比理发店更地道的黑人空间了Black space in the community than a barber shop.因此我自己一个人去找了导演 彼特道格特So, I just reached out to the directo
18、r, Pete Docter, on my own.我在半夜给他发了邮件I sent him an email in the middle of the night,向他解释让乔去理发是多么重要explaining how important it would be for him to get a haircut.以及在这部电影中出现黑人理发店的必要性And how important it would be to see a Black barber shop in this particular film.然后他就说 那你就写下这个场景吧So, he was like, Why dont
19、 you just go ahead and write the scene,我们就从那里开始and well kinda go from there?我们要去我的理发师丹尼的理发店Were heading to my barber, Danny. His shop.丹尼给我理发已经快十年了Ive been getting my hair cut with Danny for about close to 10 years now.他理得让我十分满意He just does it the way I like it.在很多情况下 你的理发师可能是Your barber, in many cas
20、es, is the person that you might have除配偶和孩子外 和你有最长久的持续关系的人the longest continuing relationship with, outside of your spouse or your children.要找到一个让你舒服的理发师非常困难Its really hard to find a barber that youre comfortable with.因此 当你找到他了 就会一直用他So when you find your guy, you really, really do stick with them.你
21、第一次见到我的时候 还以为我是个老乡You thought I was a homeboy when you first met me.黑人理发店就有点像社区里的城镇中心The Black barbershop is kind of like the town center of the community.你去到一个普通的黑人理发店You can go to your average Black barbershop那里就有黑人演员或是清洁工正在理发and there will be a Black doctor or a lawyer waiting to get his hair cut
22、后面是黑人医生或律师在等着after an actor or a garbage man.在理发店 我们都是一样的When were in the shop, were all the same.即使你觉得自己是个小人物Even if you feel like a small person,觉得这个世界不尊重你 亏待你and the world doesnt respect you or treat you right,但在理发店 你都是有价值的 你的意见很重要in the barbershop, you have worth. Your opinion matters.在椅子上坐着的那20
23、分钟 你就是国王When youre in the chair for that 20 minutes, youre king.完美 -谢了伙计No. Perfect. - Thanks, man.没问题 -周末愉快 伙计You got it. - Have a good weekend, man.为了处理这种特定的文化问题In order to deal with this kinda culturally specific stuff,皮克斯建立了内部的文化智囊团Pixar created an internal culture trust,由皮克斯的黑人员工组成which is made
24、 up of a lot of the Black Pixar employees.还有一个外部的文化智囊团And an external culture trust,都是艺术中的黑人表征方面的专家which is experts on Black representation in the arts.但挑战之一就是要把10个黑人But one of the challenges of bringing 10 Black people带到一个房♥间里 然后说 作为一个黑人意味着什么into a room and say, Okay, what does it mean to be
25、 Black?必将得到10种不同的答案Youre gonna get 10 different answers.没有一个统一的黑人故事Theres no one Black story.另一个角色就空洞了The other guy is empty.我要尽力讲述一个真实的故事 也要带入自己的经历Im trying to tell a story thats authentic and bring in my experience.但我没法代表所有人But by no means do I represent everyone.尽管这个理发店的场景So, the barbershop scene
26、,来自我作为黑人的个人经历it came from this very personal place as a Black man.但作为一个编剧But then it was my job as a screenwriter.我要用一个合理的方式展现它to execute it in a way so that it makes sense,因为你不能仅凭种族问题 就在这样的大制♥作♥电影中because you cant make any decision in a film of this size and scope草率做决定simply based on
27、racial issues.那样的话 就可以放上一堆If that were the case, you could just throw a bunch文化相关的笑话然后草草了事了of culturally specific jokes in there and call it a day.而我们不会这样做But thats not what we do.它必须由一个故事结构的立足点It has to work from a structural standpoint以及一个情绪立足点and from an emotional standpoint.你说你尽力了You say you tri
28、ed.要加上一个新的场景并不容易There was some resistance in the beginning to adding a new scene那会需要一批新的角色和新的布景that would require a whole bunch of new characters and a new set.问题在于 为什么需要这场戏The question was, Why do we need this?关于它外貌的一切已经在着装的片段中有所提及了Everything about his appearance is taken care of in this sequence a
29、bout the suit.但当我们内部放映了理发店片段的初稿时But when we screened the first draft of the barbershop sequence internally,人们都确定要它了people locked in on it.都说 哇 这个片段感觉太真实了Like, Wow. That moment feels so real and authentic.大家看到了它的好处 就像是打开了一道闸门And once they saw the benefit of that, it kinda opened the flood gates让乔的角色在
30、整部电影中都更加真实了to adding authenticity to Joes character throughout the entire film.我对彼特说 能看到已渲染的画面上And I told Pete. I said, You know, the idea of seeing rendered Black hair,各种各样的黑人头发在被打理 真的引人泪目of different styles, being cut in a Black barbershop, is almost tear-inducing.能在一部皮克斯电影里看到这些To see that in a Pixar film,让皮克斯动画师们把黑人头发这样多层次的物体to have the Pixar animators bring that level of detail to some
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